I wish AMD didn't use GIF, a format known for producing grainy results in the first place. They could have used AVIF, APNG, or a video. With that said, it does look like an improvement over FSR1 or XeSS. FSR2 was hot garbage and I never understood why they released it as is.Reply
If it looks and runs better with modern upscaling techniques, why not use them? Comparisons favor the newest DLSS and FSR implementations over native resolutions ESPECIALLY on slower hardware. Being stodgy and turning down the resolution and eye candy is hardly the "win" you seem to think.Reply
it is the " win " when the card you have may not support it.. and you cant afford a new card.
either way.. some like and use up scaling, some prefer native.. its really the users preference..
the fact that nvidia has stated that in order to get the performance we should be getting out of the card we buy ( less the xx90s) DLSS will be needed.. is also a bad idea, and shows nvidia cards, are only gonna get worse, as far as which tier they are called, and what the hardware is, again, look at the rtx 4000 seriesReply
Everything in graphics rendering is a crutch. Why stop at requiring native resolutions? Use full LODs, no mimapping, no clipping, no texture compression, etc. Half the work of the rendering pipeline is to throw away information that doesn't contribute to the final scene in a meaningful way.
If most people can't tell the difference without resorting to pixel peeping, does it really matter?Reply
I don't play any more but occasionally give it a go. People will laugh, but 900p works all right on my faithful 2200G. (I would upgrade to 5600G but motherboard woes.) Recently, I even played a few chapters of Half-Life: Alyx with NoVR. It worked fine on Vulkan. I fear, though, it won't be able to take Baldur's Gate 3, which I must play, having spent many hours of my younger life in the Infinity Engine.Reply
Er, they did include a video if you go to the linked source. Using GIF is fine for what they were showing in those two images. Plus the format they show these in doesn't even matter since what does matter is how it ends up looking and playing when active when playing the games.Reply
It's a much less expensive solution to simply buy a lower resolution display panel then run at that native resolution versus attempting to upscale to a resolution your graphics adapter is unable to handle natively. Can't handle 4k? Connect a 1080 display. Problem solved, no upscaling required.Reply
I noticed the ghosting (exactly like in that gif) a whole lot in The Talos Principle 2. I didn't know it was ghosting though and just thought the developer had a really odd way of doing water effects.
Glad to see that is getting addressed.
Upscaling tech in general is pretty neat and a good way to get higher fidelity graphics without raising the power budget too much more.Reply
For me, the worst thing about FSR3 is the delay. I've read things like the increased FPS negates the increased delay. But for me, the mouse feels like it's gliding. Like you have V-Sync on and you use the worst LCD TV in existence.
Okay for console titles on a big TV but horrible for like a multiplayer game for example. I hope they can figure a way to reduce this delay one day.Reply
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meacupla - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
I wish AMD didn't use GIF, a format known for producing grainy results in the first place. They could have used AVIF, APNG, or a video.With that said, it does look like an improvement over FSR1 or XeSS.
FSR2 was hot garbage and I never understood why they released it as is. Reply
Qasar - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
i solve that problem the best way, i dont use up scaling... dlss or fsr.... ReplyGeoffreyA - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
A solution seemingly forgotten! Replymeacupla - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
cool, not everyone runs a rtx 4090 or plays at 480p ReplyQasar - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
meacupla, too bad im not running a 4090, but nice try..im still on a 1060....... Reply
meacupla - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
yeah, let's see your 1060 run Alan Wake 2 at 1080p without FSR ReplyQasar - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
sure.. IF i played the game, in just turn down the eye candy....besides upscaling is just a crutch, look at the whole rtx line that doesnt have 90 in it for example. Reply
Alexvrb - Saturday, March 23, 2024 - link
If it looks and runs better with modern upscaling techniques, why not use them? Comparisons favor the newest DLSS and FSR implementations over native resolutions ESPECIALLY on slower hardware. Being stodgy and turning down the resolution and eye candy is hardly the "win" you seem to think. ReplyQasar - Saturday, March 23, 2024 - link
it is the " win " when the card you have may not support it.. and you cant afford a new card.either way.. some like and use up scaling, some prefer native.. its really the users preference..
the fact that nvidia has stated that in order to get the performance we should be getting out of the card we buy ( less the xx90s) DLSS will be needed.. is also a bad idea, and shows nvidia cards, are only gonna get worse, as far as which tier they are called, and what the hardware is, again, look at the rtx 4000 series Reply
Dante Verizon - Tuesday, March 26, 2024 - link
*TAA, not native res. Replyxenol - Monday, March 25, 2024 - link
Everything in graphics rendering is a crutch. Why stop at requiring native resolutions? Use full LODs, no mimapping, no clipping, no texture compression, etc. Half the work of the rendering pipeline is to throw away information that doesn't contribute to the final scene in a meaningful way.If most people can't tell the difference without resorting to pixel peeping, does it really matter? Reply
Railander - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
i like your solution, there's just this small barrier called "money" in the way. Replyballsystemlord - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
Inflation. Devaluation of the US currency (and it unfortunately happens to other countries currencies as well). ReplyQasar - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
see my post above..... ReplyGeoffreyA - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
I don't play any more but occasionally give it a go. People will laugh, but 900p works all right on my faithful 2200G. (I would upgrade to 5600G but motherboard woes.) Recently, I even played a few chapters of Half-Life: Alyx with NoVR. It worked fine on Vulkan. I fear, though, it won't be able to take Baldur's Gate 3, which I must play, having spent many hours of my younger life in the Infinity Engine. Replydarkswordsman17 - Thursday, March 21, 2024 - link
Er, they did include a video if you go to the linked source. Using GIF is fine for what they were showing in those two images. Plus the format they show these in doesn't even matter since what does matter is how it ends up looking and playing when active when playing the games. ReplyPlords90 - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
Another W for amd, also use APNG for previews, it isn't 2010 anymore ReplyPeachNCream - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
It's a much less expensive solution to simply buy a lower resolution display panel then run at that native resolution versus attempting to upscale to a resolution your graphics adapter is unable to handle natively. Can't handle 4k? Connect a 1080 display. Problem solved, no upscaling required. Replyxenol - Monday, March 25, 2024 - link
But then I'm stuck with a 1080p resolution elsewhere, and 1080p for me is just "okay" outside of gaming. Replydan82 - Friday, March 22, 2024 - link
I noticed the ghosting (exactly like in that gif) a whole lot in The Talos Principle 2. I didn't know it was ghosting though and just thought the developer had a really odd way of doing water effects.Glad to see that is getting addressed.
Upscaling tech in general is pretty neat and a good way to get higher fidelity graphics without raising the power budget too much more. Reply
itsjustaprankbro - Sunday, March 24, 2024 - link
For me, the worst thing about FSR3 is the delay. I've read things like the increased FPS negates the increased delay. But for me, the mouse feels like it's gliding. Like you have V-Sync on and you use the worst LCD TV in existence.Okay for console titles on a big TV but horrible for like a multiplayer game for example. I hope they can figure a way to reduce this delay one day. Reply