Lunar Lake seems to be a massive improvement over Meteor Lake. New node, new architecture, on package memory. Massive performance improvement. Also the on package memory should help with efficiency improvements just like it did with M1. Very eager to see it in the market.Reply
I can't exactly say that memory-on-package is a development that exactly excites me with its intrinsic non-upgradability. I sure hope they get some serious efficiency gains from it to make up for such shortcomings. It would be very interesting to see its efficiency compared to a reasonably comparable non-MoP processor.Reply
I hate these bandwagons. I don't want an AI PC any more than I want a Blockchain PC. Just sell me a Thunderbolt 5 PC... that's technology I actually do want.Reply
I suppose if we could go back to the '90s and imagine a "3D PC" that ran 3D applications and sported a Voodoo graphics card, it would be analogous to what the AI PC concept is trying to push.Reply
I remember when "multimedia" was a buzzword, back in the mid-90's. I was never exactly sure what it meant, but I guess it basically covered PCs with CD-ROM drives, sound cards, and the ability to do some amount of "full-motion video" playback.Reply
Indeed, I remember the "Multimedia PC" and how software also played a part. My "1996 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia" came on a CD-ROM, and made much of its 8-bit images, video clips, and sounds; QuickTime had to be installed for the multimedia to work. I remember the endless Microsoft trial versions full of sound and video. And my graphics card was ATI's Rage II+ DVD, because it had iDCT acceleration (rather than full MPEG-2).Reply
Impressive recall! I never had a CD-ROM encyclopedia, but I think that was probably the most popular one. I didn't jump on the "video playback card" bandwagon. However, around 1999 I got a Rage 3D and picked up a few Video CDs to test out its full-screen playback prowess.Reply
I had the ATI CD, full of MPEG-1 videos that played all right. That computer, my first, had a Pentium 166 CPU, 48 MB of RAM, the ATI graphics, and a Yamaha OPL3-SA sound card, along with Windows 98 SE. Its sound was excellent, but MP3s taxed the CPU considerably!Reply
I'm still confused and trying to understand which tiles are going to be made where with Lunar Lake. I thought I read that the compute tile will be made on TSMC's N3B node, while the SoC will be made on Intel? If that's the case, that's the exact opposite of Meteor Lake's tiles, where the CPU/Compute tile is made on Intel 4 and the SoC and Gfx are made by TSMC.
Did I get this all backwards? If not, that would be a huge departure from Intel to have their flagship pieces (the CPU cores) be made by TSMC and not themselves. Unless they see a radical transformation in the industry where AI and Gfx are the new flagship arenas?Reply
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Lunar Lake seems to be a massive improvement over Meteor Lake. New node, new architecture, on package memory. Massive performance improvement. Also the on package memory should help with efficiency improvements just like it did with M1. Very eager to see it in the market. ReplyOrfosaurio - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link
This! ReplyDolda2000 - Saturday, April 13, 2024 - link
I can't exactly say that memory-on-package is a development that exactly excites me with its intrinsic non-upgradability. I sure hope they get some serious efficiency gains from it to make up for such shortcomings. It would be very interesting to see its efficiency compared to a reasonably comparable non-MoP processor. Replyhubick - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link
I hate these bandwagons. I don't want an AI PC any more than I want a Blockchain PC. Just sell me a Thunderbolt 5 PC... that's technology I actually do want. ReplyGeoffreyA - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link
Indeed, the AI PC made me shake my head. The companies are tripping over themselves, desperate to grab those dollars from the AI pot. ReplyThreska - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link
Games will have better AI. ReplyGeoffreyA - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link
I suppose if we could go back to the '90s and imagine a "3D PC" that ran 3D applications and sported a Voodoo graphics card, it would be analogous to what the AI PC concept is trying to push. Replymode_13h - Wednesday, April 17, 2024 - link
An even older throwback: "Multimedia PC"I remember when "multimedia" was a buzzword, back in the mid-90's. I was never exactly sure what it meant, but I guess it basically covered PCs with CD-ROM drives, sound cards, and the ability to do some amount of "full-motion video" playback. Reply
GeoffreyA - Wednesday, April 17, 2024 - link
Indeed, I remember the "Multimedia PC" and how software also played a part. My "1996 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia" came on a CD-ROM, and made much of its 8-bit images, video clips, and sounds; QuickTime had to be installed for the multimedia to work. I remember the endless Microsoft trial versions full of sound and video. And my graphics card was ATI's Rage II+ DVD, because it had iDCT acceleration (rather than full MPEG-2). Replymode_13h - Wednesday, April 17, 2024 - link
Impressive recall! I never had a CD-ROM encyclopedia, but I think that was probably the most popular one. I didn't jump on the "video playback card" bandwagon. However, around 1999 I got a Rage 3D and picked up a few Video CDs to test out its full-screen playback prowess. ReplyGeoffreyA - Thursday, April 18, 2024 - link
I had the ATI CD, full of MPEG-1 videos that played all right. That computer, my first, had a Pentium 166 CPU, 48 MB of RAM, the ATI graphics, and a Yamaha OPL3-SA sound card, along with Windows 98 SE. Its sound was excellent, but MP3s taxed the CPU considerably! ReplyFreckledTrout - Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - link
There is a lot of work that can be offloaded to the NPU so it's not like it won't get used for non-AI workloads as well. ReplyDante Verizon - Saturday, April 13, 2024 - link
Oh, It seems that someone wants attention. ReplyFarfolomew - Monday, April 22, 2024 - link
I'm still confused and trying to understand which tiles are going to be made where with Lunar Lake. I thought I read that the compute tile will be made on TSMC's N3B node, while the SoC will be made on Intel? If that's the case, that's the exact opposite of Meteor Lake's tiles, where the CPU/Compute tile is made on Intel 4 and the SoC and Gfx are made by TSMC.Did I get this all backwards? If not, that would be a huge departure from Intel to have their flagship pieces (the CPU cores) be made by TSMC and not themselves. Unless they see a radical transformation in the industry where AI and Gfx are the new flagship arenas? Reply