The thing about the 7 year number is that it's just for the heads. Assuming these still need helium, I suspect they won't actually warranty the drives that long.Reply
7 doesn't really mean anything unless they dare to give warranty for that amount of years. 20+ drives I have have exceeded 7 years and are still working anyway, proofing further that 7 number is empty theory.Reply
How can you have MTBF of 2.5 Million hours (285 years) if you expect the head to last only 7 years?(4-5 years for PMR). Can someone who understands this please elaborate. This does not make any sense to me. Reply
MBTF is statistical term, it expects 1 failure every 2.5 million hours. they can convert this to AFR (annualized failure rate) that makes more sense to direct consumers with single drive: 0.35% AFR. essentially, if you only own 1 drive, you have 0.35% chance it dies in 1 year. If you own 10.000, then 35 will likely die.
thus 10k drives * 365 * 24 hrs, divided by 35 drives = Voila! 2.5 million hours between failures (per drive).Reply
I'll be more impressed when they're actually purchasable, considering they were announced as shipping 3 months ago but have yet to show up at any of the usual large wholesalers (the kind who sell to enterprises)Reply
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StormyParis - Tuesday, April 23, 2024 - link
Whaaaaat ? 4-5 yrs for a HDD ? ReplyScott_T - Tuesday, April 23, 2024 - link
I hope the 10 year old Hitachi drive in my server doesnt find out about that. Replydgingeri - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
I have 8X 4TB Ultrastars that are over 10 years old now. Replypjcamp - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
Of course, Hitachi is now Western Digital.So there's that. Reply
Threska - Tuesday, April 23, 2024 - link
Might be the higher-density required which is why older technologies last longer. Replyartifex - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
The thing about the 7 year number is that it's just for the heads. Assuming these still need helium, I suspect they won't actually warranty the drives that long. Replyskyvory - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
7 doesn't really mean anything unless they dare to give warranty for that amount of years. 20+ drives I have have exceeded 7 years and are still working anyway, proofing further that 7 number is empty theory. Replyhaukionkannel - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
Only 7 years... sounds really bad!Have to avoid these non lasting HD techs! Reply
agoyal - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
How can you have MTBF of 2.5 Million hours (285 years) if you expect the head to last only 7 years?(4-5 years for PMR). Can someone who understands this please elaborate. This does not make any sense to me. ReplyPEJUman - Thursday, April 25, 2024 - link
MBTF is statistical term, it expects 1 failure every 2.5 million hours. they can convert this to AFR (annualized failure rate) that makes more sense to direct consumers with single drive: 0.35% AFR. essentially, if you only own 1 drive, you have 0.35% chance it dies in 1 year. If you own 10.000, then 35 will likely die.thus 10k drives * 365 * 24 hrs, divided by 35 drives = Voila! 2.5 million hours between failures (per drive). Reply
FatFlatulentGit - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
A Seagate drive that lasts 7 years? Sounds like the exception rather than the rule. ReplyReflex - Wednesday, April 24, 2024 - link
Buy the Exos line, they are great and well priced too. I use them in my NAS setups and they go forever. Replystoatwblr - Thursday, May 2, 2024 - link
I'll be more impressed when they're actually purchasable, considering they were announced as shipping 3 months ago but have yet to show up at any of the usual large wholesalers (the kind who sell to enterprises) Reply