An XDNA AI accelerator is already in Phoenix, so it would automatically be included in any Phoenix desktop APU.
They have made the usual non-committal statements indicating they want AI in everything, but not guaranteeing it will come to any particular product lines right away. So maybe XDNA will be in Granite Ridge Zen 5 desktop CPUs, maybe not.
XDNA as they market it in Phoenix is for low power inference, not necessarily even IGP beating performance. Its not really the same market Nvidia is chasing.
The more promising AMD (and Intel) AI thing is the rumored quad channel APU.
Since AMD uses common building blocks for their CPU and GPU products, it only makes sense that the 8000 series lineup uses RDNA 3.5. Their 3.5 IP will be based around a TSMC N4 process technology and it looks like the IO Die will be moving to that tech in the next generation. They would either port RDNA 3.0 to N4, or just reuse the cell designs from their N4 GPUs instead.
It doesn't automatically make sense. Ryzen 7000 used an N6 I/O die with RDNA 2. They could have just reused that one for Ryzen 8000, but I guess not. RDNA 3 has appeared on N4 (Phoenix), N5 (Navi 31), and N6 (Navi 33). There's probably nothing stopping AMD from keeping the I/O die at N6, if that's what they want to use to save a few bucks.
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nandnandnand - Monday, June 5, 2023 - link
I didn't hope for any more than an RDNA2 iGPU in Granite Ridge (reused I/O die). Time to throw in XDNA as well?StevoLincolnite - Monday, June 5, 2023 - link
Wondering when AMD will start to include A.I accelerated processing on their CPU's to chase the same money bags nVidia currently is?nandnandnand - Monday, June 5, 2023 - link
An XDNA AI accelerator is already in Phoenix, so it would automatically be included in any Phoenix desktop APU.They have made the usual non-committal statements indicating they want AI in everything, but not guaranteeing it will come to any particular product lines right away. So maybe XDNA will be in Granite Ridge Zen 5 desktop CPUs, maybe not.
brucethemoose - Tuesday, June 6, 2023 - link
XDNA as they market it in Phoenix is for low power inference, not necessarily even IGP beating performance. Its not really the same market Nvidia is chasing.The more promising AMD (and Intel) AI thing is the rumored quad channel APU.
pogsnet - Friday, June 16, 2023 - link
Phoenix APU found on AMD PRO Laptops can do AI processing. It make AI processing faster and accurate says BARD AIlightningz71 - Tuesday, June 6, 2023 - link
Since AMD uses common building blocks for their CPU and GPU products, it only makes sense that the 8000 series lineup uses RDNA 3.5. Their 3.5 IP will be based around a TSMC N4 process technology and it looks like the IO Die will be moving to that tech in the next generation. They would either port RDNA 3.0 to N4, or just reuse the cell designs from their N4 GPUs instead.nandnandnand - Wednesday, June 7, 2023 - link
It doesn't automatically make sense. Ryzen 7000 used an N6 I/O die with RDNA 2. They could have just reused that one for Ryzen 8000, but I guess not. RDNA 3 has appeared on N4 (Phoenix), N5 (Navi 31), and N6 (Navi 33). There's probably nothing stopping AMD from keeping the I/O die at N6, if that's what they want to use to save a few bucks.scineram - Thursday, June 8, 2023 - link
Yes, I also expect N6 for that.scineram - Thursday, June 8, 2023 - link
So Phoenix for AM5 confirmed, cool. Looking at an upgrade for my itx system.